The thread starts with
Ryan, but then the "fun" starts, when this person who clearly thinks she can order me around and demand I apprise her of three years work at the drop of a hat begins her rant with "I call bull".She also thinks I should fill in every detail of my life, including my Grandfather's death, which she so callously dismissed.
This is the reason why education is important, and why allowing people like former "chief" Armand La Barge and Catholic "school" "superintendent" Frances Bagley to freely slander innocent people is dangerous costly, unethical,
and just plain WRONG.
I will be sending this to Frances Bagley, and many more public officials and media outlets to serve as an example of the negative impact these lies have made on my life.
I couldn't have dreamed of better proof of what this slander has been like to endure.
I hope you "enjoy" reading the moronic drivel of
as little as I "enjoyed" living through it.See if you can spot where I finally decide to drop the civility.
*QuanticChaos1000
"No, this isn't a ticket where you go to court, you just pay it".
Wow... that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard... there is no such thing and everybody knows it and that prick tried to convince you otherwise... it blows me away.
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*KeswickPinhead
He's still on the loose, armed and dangerous.
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*QuanticChaos1000
I fear for others who might get entrapped like that, we are programed to trust the law enforcement officials... and so many take advantage of that.
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*KeswickPinhead
Even if Chris Hyland were fired, the culture of beligerant lawlessness among York Police would continue.
It wasn't just him, it wasn't just Peter Duguay, it wasn't just Detective Sargeant Braybrook...
Inspector Creighton was involved in this plot.
The CHIEF of POLICE was involved.
I believe the local politicians were involved as well.
I believe they all broke the law in an attempt to frame me.
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*thorn21
I call bull
The whole journal read "IT'S A CONSPIRACY MAN, THE WORLDS OUT TO GET ME!!"
Though since you didn't seem to write THE WHOLE story I'd like to ask some questions about this if you don't mind and excuse me in advanced if I get a few things wrong since I'm from the UK so things are different.
You didn't explain why police constable Chris Hyland arrested you in the first place or how he got to you in the first place. I can only assume you really were trespassing somewhere and someone called to remove you and I'm sure they give a warning first only if it's your second time or you decided to kick off that they would arrest you in which case they could use this as evidence against you in the court. Either one could explain why you were considered "dangerous".
The court house would have had some evidence against you or the case would have been thrown out.
I would query the rest but it sounds like you're just talking crap
As for "The Catholic School, and the York Regional Police Force have NOT PROVEN that I harassed anybody" it seems like you hang around the school quite a lot, it's no wonder they would be worried a "51" year old around kids.
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*KeswickPinhead
You can find all the answers to your queries by searching "Keswick snow catholic torture".
I am suffering from PTSD as a result of the slanderous attacks against me, so forgive me for not proving my innocence over and over and over.
The way I understand the law, it is THEIR job to prove guilt, not the other way around.
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*thorn21
I read the artist comments and it still sounds like bull. Sorry.
You accuse the catholic school of sending death threats but you don't post them here yet you are fine of posting a police officers and under age children faces without permission to your page? and if the school was harassing you, you would first have had to have done something for them to know who you were. Odds are you have actually been doing something bad first.
I an only assume Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder which makes not much sense to me as you were only arrested and sent to court. You were in no danger what-so-ever if you were innocent and you don't seem stressed or frightened if you are able to write a full journal and post pictures which could get you in trouble on DA. Also I don't really see how PTSD, if you do really have it, could stop you from showing or even copy + pasting your innocence.
You also failed to write down that you proved to them you were guilty in your story. I thought they had no evidence against you.
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*KeswickPinhead
Wrong. I accuse the Catholic School Board of SLANDER, that LEAD to the death threats. You obviously have reached a conclusion that the police have dismissed now.
Funny that...the people that know more about it have abandoned this bullshit.
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*thorn21
But you still haven't shown proof of these "death threats" or proved your innocence anywhere.
Also what would make you accuse you to slander the school board, couldn't you just have left them alone at any point and not come back?
Your gallery is full of the Catholic School yet you still believe you weren't trespassing on their ground. I still don't see it. You have more than enough evidence against you being dangerous to the children I'm slightly amazed they left you for that long.
And if the people have left this alone why bring the story up again? Shouldn't you have left this alone as well? The police picture was taken 2009 but you have the need to bring the story up again in 2011.
It doesn't really matter who else have abandoned this I'm here now, asking you questions you failed to write down in your journal of innocence.
Lastly, which has just come to me, why were you ever going near that school in the first place?
You don't seem to have any children so going near the school in the first place would have been pointless. You have no reason to be there but to stir up trouble. You've taken plenty of snow pictures so they would have known you and left you alone and I really don't believe they did it because they dislike you because that would need reason to not like you and if the soccer field is connected to the school it would count as trespassing.
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*KeswickPinhead
Yes I have.
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*thorn21
Have to what?
I asked you 3 things. Please read the comment properly, it make it out that your lying about everything.
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*KeswickPinhead
I am not lying about anything.
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*thorn21
You just can't prove truth
There's too many holes in your story which are probably the part where it would shows you being guilty.
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*KeswickPinhead
Oddly, the police seem to disagree with your assumption.
The person that threatened me was cautioned by the police.
Why?
The police are no longer harassing me on a daily basis, but I a doing the same as I always have.
Why?
The Principal is no longer at that school.
The neighbour who started the rumour left the neighbourhood in shame.
The Chief of Police has retired rather than answer questions at what would have been his upcoming contract negotiations.
The detective in charge of "professional standards and practices" has been replaced three times.
One of them for submitting false evidence against a guy whose wife he was fucking.
The York Regional "Police" force has a long tradition of shoddy work, don't believe me...google.
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*thorn21
The police you so hate are now agreeing with you?
So you're still creeping around the catholic school as always?
The principal is no longer at that school
Principals leave school a lot. They don't work until they die.
The neighbor who started the rumor left the neighborhood in shame.
I don't remember anywhere you mentioning a neighbor starting rumors.
The Chief of Police has retired rather than answer questions at what would have been his upcoming contract negotiations.
Or he retired due to stress, wanting to be with family or finding a new job with better pay.
The detective in charge of "professional standards and practices" has been replaced three times.
I had 5 new math teachers in one year. They quit.
One of them for submitting false evidence against a guy whose wife he was fucking.
Is there hard proof or did you hear rumors from someone because I doubt they would ever tell that to the public or how that would become a big case.
The York Regional "Police" force has a long tradition of shoddy work, don't believe me...google.
I did and found nothing bad about them anywhere except for one officer dying on duty.
These are all just your opinion~
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*KeswickPinhead 1 day ago
Who said I was "creeping around the catholic school"?
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*thorn21
[link] , [link] , [link] , [link] , [link] , [link]
That's only looking in the one gallery
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*KeswickPinhead
What you have classified as "creeping" I call exercising the rights that ALL of my neighbours have. If you are calling ME a creeper, you are also insulting all the other people around here.
I am going to send the Catholic School Board "Superintendent" Frances Bagley a record of this attack of yours.
You see, at one time, their tax funded lawyer was threatening me with a fine of up to $5000 if I so much as communicated with staff.
Then the cops tried to imply that because I didn't try to talk to the Catholic School Board, I must be guilty.
So now...I send Frances e-mails detailing how her lies have negatively impacted my life.
The tax funded special delivery threats stopped.
The police harassment stopped.
Frances Bagley is too busy fighting to keep her position these days to be bothered lying about me anymore.
Please continue your assault...it helps to proves my point.
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*thorn21
People will see it in different ways. If you got hassled for it then others didn't see it as this.
I actually never attacked you, I was asking questions and poking holes in this story you have told. I called bull on your story because it sounded fake then asked for the things that seemed missing. I have not called you names or threatened you so this would or will not count as attacking.
I don't know who "Frances Bagley" is or these lies.
Again you're not telling the whole thing, it does just sound like you only have new evidence when you see convenient to prove innocence.
If you didn't want questions, again, why bring it up 2 years after it happened?
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*KeswickPinhead
Because I am still under attack by ill informed people like you.
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*thorn21
Well maybe you should have informed us better, then no one would have asked
And If next time you want to rant about your days in a police car might I suggest a blog site and not an art site.
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*KeswickPinhead
I'm an artist, what I do is art.
My art is affected by my environment and circumstances.
Even our conversation will be reused.
I write, I take pictures, I create art of all kinds.
When someone accuses me of being a criminal or a pervert, I write about that.
These idiots were absolutely ASTONISHED that I would be angry at being falsely accused of perversion.
How out of touch is THAT?
Defending ones self against slander is not a crime.
If you think you have evidence of criminal activity, report it to the YRP.
I quite like the idea of my detractors working toward my purpose.
We have something in commmon, you and I.
We both think the cops failed.
You may think they failed to convict a pervert.
I know they failed because they wasted our hard earned money investigating gossip, resulting in the endangerment of citizens, and the slander of the innocent grandson of a law enforcement officer...me.
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*thorn21
I never questioned you being an artist.
But if you want the world to know of your story, it is generally better for you to put it on a blog site and not an art site where people will be expecting more of the art and less of the story.
I live in the UK like I said the first time so reporting to the YRP would surely be out of place.
If it was just one persons accusation then the police would pass it off but if it's many on the same person wit the same story then they investigate and wasting hard earned money would be police not doing anything while the other perverts walked in to the school. The police were doing their job, you just don't agree with them because it was an attack on you.
And as far as I've heard from you, only you were in this trouble, not any other citizen.
the slander of the innocent grandson of a law enforcement officer...me.
Hey look, new information again! But that doesn't mean you are above the law.
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*KeswickPinhead
New info to you, perhaps, but it wouldn't be if you checked all the facts that are available.
I love your use of the term "other perverts".
Are you still implying that I am a pervert?
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*thorn21
You said they have been calling you a pervert and trying to convict you of such and the evidence points to this. I could have said "PERVERTS LIKE YOU" but I find this unfair, the evidence of your gallery clearly show you only stand outside the school.
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*KeswickPinhead 19 hours ago
The pictures are of me, yes. I take them when there is no other person...or child...around for a reason.
Most of the pictures are taken early in the morning before anybody else is about.
Quite a few of them are taken on Sunday when the place is empty.
Actually, they never laid any charge with the term pervert, or its derivatives.
They chose to only lay the trespassing charge to cover their tracks, and to try and trick me into a faux confession.
Clearly you see a picture of a blue sky, and only think of rain.
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*thorn21
I wouldn't matter if there were children there or not, it is still private property.
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*KeswickPinhead
So they can go ahead and charge me again then...but this time I will demand a court-appointed lawyer, and together we will introduce all the evidence they don't want entered.
Please feel free to encourage them to further harass me.
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*thorn21
They ask you if you would like a lawyer all the time before questioning you, so even strongly suggest one if the suspect has a lot against him.
Will they be using your DA account as well for evidence? After all what was the point in all the pictures if you aren't going to show them?
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*KeswickPinhead
They are SUPPOSED to ask you if you would like a lawyer, yes.
"Detective" Peter Duguay denied me that right.
He lied and told me "you don't need one, you aren't going to be charged".
I will be using my dA account as evidence, along with all the other proof I have.
That's why it will never happen, unless I sue.
I sure wish I could afford a lawyer, I'd be a rich man.
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*thorn21
They are by law required to ask you.
If he denied you the right, you could have used it to sue him when you were in court. You did not.
Don't they hand out state lawyers from the government for those not able to provide one for themselves? You obviously have a lot of time on your hands if you're able to respond to all my comments in less than an hour of my sending it. Why don't you go out and get a job with the spare time to pay for this lawyer or maybe there are people in your neighborhood that are lawyers or can help you get one.
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*KeswickPinhead
Yes, they are, but no, I couldn't just sue him when I was in court, and you would know that if you had any knowledge of law and justice.
Perhaps you should refrain from giving bad advice.
Why don't you go out and stop wasting my time?
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*thorn21
Yes you can sue them by saying "this detective did not allow me to have a lawyer or state representative" at any time during the hearing.
Like I said I have friends who are police officers, they're very helpful when I have questions on international laws plus the law is easily accessible online for when you need it.
My advice was sound.
I have been out thanks, I had a really nice day~
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*KeswickPinhead
Wrong.
The "detective" didn't even show in court, and I would have liked to question him, along with the former principal and "constable" Jeff Kerr.
The fact that the people who talked all the shit stayed clear of the courtroom is also quite telling.
The last time I saw Jeff Kerr, he had a black eye.
Seems like there is trouble in paradise down at the YRP.
Infighing has replaced harassment.
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*thorn21
Right! it's not my fault you didn't speak up when you had the chance, so please don't take it out on me and Oh, more things you forgot to say in your post of gloating.
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*KeswickPinhead
Who is taking it out on you?
If I quote you verbatim, it's hardly my fault if the things you have said look bad on you.
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*thorn21
Oh my police friends got back to me. They said the Lawyer thing was a complete lie.
Like I said, by law the detective has to ask if you need a lawyer.
And in court, the judge asks if you are representing yourself or have a lawyer. If you do not the Judge WILL give you a lawyer. So there was no way for the hearing to go on if you didn't and weren't representing yourself.
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*KeswickPinhead
Feel free to trust your police friends, idiot.
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*thorn21
What's with the name calling? I thought you were older than 10.
And it's police with knowledge of the law against one man with a sketchy story.
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eswickPinhead
Feel free to tell you police pals that they should contact their Canadian cop colleagues and tell them how to do their job. Cops love to be told how to do their job by other cops.
I am one man, true, but the only sketchy stories are those that were told by the cops and catholics....and you.
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*thorn21
How many time do I have to repeat that I live in England, Uk police talking to the Canadian police is out of place but as I've also said many times they HAVE been doing their jobs all this time.
You're the one telling this story to make yourself look like the hero and get praised by people on DA. I have made no stories, just pointed out the truth.
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*KeswickPinhead
Wrong.
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*thorn21
"Truth"
Or you would have made your new journal in a blog like someone else suggest before you disabled the comments.
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*KeswickPinhead
I tire of you and your bullshit.
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*thorn21
So stop replying
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*KeswickPinhead
Fuck you.
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*thorn21
You're still replying
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*KeswickPinhead
You're still an idiot.
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*thorn21
And you're still replying.
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*KeswickPinhead
The longer you comment, the more I will have to send to Frances, Dalton and the rest.
The more you say, the stronger my case against them is.
Keep lying.
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*thorn21
HAHAHAHA you're so funny!
And what will this prove? That you edited out the parts where I proved the holes in your story?
Even in your old age you know how to edit!
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*KeswickPinhead
I will send every word you sent to them, let them suffer through it like I've had to.
I'm sure they will enjoy your insight into how they should handle matters.
Oh, and I will be sure to send a link to you to read exactly what I sent to them.
It only seems fair that you should suffer too.
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*thorn21
How will they suffer? Everything I've said was AGAINST you.
Not all people get upset when someone gives them advice on what to do.
Please do and send me their actual reply not your interpretation where you somehow won with no evidence or lawyer again.
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*KeswickPinhead
They will have to read your drivel.
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*thorn21
Now look who's started talking to themselves
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*KeswickPinhead
Oh, I am quite aware that I am capable of talking shit.
You, on the other hand are apparently oblivious to how stupid you sound.
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*thorn21
I know that you're great at talking shit, I read your comments and journal!
If I sound so stupid then why, KeswickPinhead, are you trying so hard (and failing) to defend yourself?
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*KeswickPinhead
I have no choice.
I'm innocent, and I'll be damned if I will let liars and gossips control the discourse.
You talk pure garbage.
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*thorn21
You sound like the murders shouting I'm innocent with a head in their hands.
And yet you still reply.....
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*KeswickPinhead 10 hours ago
I'm guessing you meant "murderers", imbecile.
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*thorn21
Really is all you can do correcting my spelling and grammar? Angry old man correcting spelling while arguing with someone much younger then them. You don't sound weird at all /sarcasm
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*KeswickPinhead
Than, not "then", idiot.
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*KeswickPinhead
BTW...My grandfather and uncle were law officers in England. My point is that when cops break the law they do a disservice to ALL other cops, including those in my family.
If you smear my name, you smear their reputation.
The cops should be ashamed of themselves.
As of today, I am calling for a second Provincial Government Audit of the YRP.
The reasons for the first investigation still apply [link]
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*thorn21
BTW...My grandfather and uncle were law officers in England.
Now they're in England. Would you mind telling me where, I know a few law enforcer friends who may have met them depending where they station.
My point is that when cops break the law they do a disservice to ALL other cops, including those in my family.
The police didn't break any law, they done their job. You really are angry because they arrested you, sadly that is what they do.
If you smear my name, you smear their reputation.
No, if I smear your name then I smear your name. It's like saying if I call one English man overweight and lazy, then the whole of England must be overweight and lazy.
The cops should be ashamed of themselves.
For what? Again, they're doing their jobs.
As of today, I am calling for a second Provincial Government Audit of the YRP.
I don't know what that is, and i don't think it really matters. Just proof that you really can't let being arrested go.
The reasons for the first investigation still apply
I don't see what police officers with new technology has to do with anything.
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*KeswickPinhead
"They done their job"?
Hardly, and I suggest you learn English.
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*thorn21
I'm so sorry I didn't know perfect English was included in this since I had found a few my auto correct pointed out from your replies.
So why hardly then?
I keep telling you arresting suspicious people or someone trespassing on private ground is some of what they do. Not all officers are lucky enough to get the drug beats.
And you never told me where your grandfather and uncle are stationed, one of my friends work in Serco policing. He's been moved around a lot so he may have come across them at least once.
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*KeswickPinhead
Private Ground?
Hardly.
Paid for and maintained by our tax money.
The day I was charged I was walking across an empty soccer field with a senior citizen friend of mine, who has cancer.
They rousted him too, but didn't charge him.
My grandfather and uncle are both retired from the force.
Twamley is the name of both of them....Sargeant Twamley.
Good cops...unlike what we have here.
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*thorn21
Doesn't matter who paid for it. England tax payers help go towards Buckingham Palace but we can't just go waltzing in. It's still private grounds owned by someone who doesn't want you there.
It doesn't matter if it's empty or not if you're not supposed to be there, and it really doesn't matter who you're there with.
Your grandfather and uncle are both retired but one is dead. So why not say one is retired and one has passed away, you were okay with giving me useless information about your friend having cancer.
If he's Sargent he's been here for a very long time right?
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*KeswickPinhead
Why are you still annoying me again?
Your comments are useless.
Please go bother someone else.
Call the cops if you like...
But stop your endless bullshit.
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*thorn21
My comments are useless yet you wanted to show this to the catholic board while breaking data protection act? You never did ask my permission to show this outside the internet.
I won't go bother someone else, I'm asking questions which is in my right on this site.
If you wanted this to stop you had it IN YOUR RIGHT to stop replying to even block me at anytime.
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*KeswickPinhead
Outside the internet?
Nice turn of phrase.
You have made these comments in public, and I will be sharing them on the internet.
Feel free to try and stop me from revealing all the crap you have been saying.
I could block you, true, but I believe in freedom of speech, unlike you, apparently.
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*thorn21
You can try if you want but I'm sure the first thing they will ask you is "have you gotten permission to show this from the owner of the post?"
Maybe you should learn the laws before you go back in to court.
And you say "freedom of speech" yet you tell me be quiet and leave you alone?
HYPOCRITE.
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*KeswickPinhead
I have the right to tell you that you are talking shit. I have the right to not want to be bothered by people like you who talk shit. I am not a lawyer, but I am learning.
If there ever is a next time, you can bet my performance will improve.
My work the last time, in spite of my legal ignorance, was enough to make them not want a repeat performance.
Fuck off.
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*thorn21
You are 51 shouldn't you be near the end of learning?
And like I said Stop commenting or block me, don't waver the freedom of speech at me then tell me to shut up!
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*KeswickPinhead
You can choose to stop learning any time you like.
When you are Fifty One you can decide to remain as ignorant as you choose.
I am giving you all the rope you want.
If you choose to keep talking shit, that's your responsibility.
You are an idiot.
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*thorn21
Really now.
You're embarrassing yourself.
Maybe you should take your own advice.
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*KeswickPinhead
Talking to yourself?
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*thorn21
You really are failing bad aren't you?
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*KeswickPinhead
You should see someone about this talking to yourself business, it sounds serious.
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*thorn21
Seriously, are you really 51?
You're just acting like a big kid because I proved you wrong and now you don't want to back down because it'll make you feel weak and look as thought I won.
Stop replying if you have nothing smart to say.
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*KeswickPinhead
Proved me wrong?
You must be high.
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*thorn21
"Like I said, by law the detective has to ask if you need a lawyer.
And in court, the judge asks if you are representing yourself or have a lawyer. If you do not the Judge WILL give you a lawyer. So there was no way for the hearing to go on if you didn't and weren't representing yourself."
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*KeswickPinhead
If only the fucking cops followed the law.
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*thorn21
They did. You're lying.
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*KeswickPinhead
Wrong.
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*thorn21
You wouldn't have been tired in ANY court if you had no lawyer with you.
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*KeswickPinhead
Did you mean "tried", idiot?
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*thorn21
Oh my I'm so sorry
You wouldn't have been tried in ANY court if you had no lawyer with you.
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*KeswickPinhead
Wrong.
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*thorn21
If all you can say is "wrong" and nothing to back it up it proves more that I'm right!
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*KeswickPinhead
Incorrect.
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*thorn21
T_____T
Grow up KeswickPinhead.
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*KeswickPinhead
Follow your own advice, idiot.
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*thorn21
I'm younger yet more mature that you and don't call people "idiot" when they don't agree with something someone said.
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*KeswickPinhead 10 hours ago
I call people idiots when they behave like idiots, idiot.
As far as your maturity goes, that is up to others to determine.
Self-proclaimed "mature" individuals, usually are the furthest thing from it.
Don't break your arm patting yourself on the back, idiot.
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*thorn21 10 hours ago
I only pointed out something and then you called me an idiot. I haven't acted like one what so ever nor have I called you any names. So anyone who read the whole of this would clearly see that you were the most immature one of this conversation resorting to petty name calling to try and get save your dignity.
And you really should come up with something better than "idiot" your mental age is bordering at 8 years old at the most!
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*KeswickPinhead
Please, don't play the victim, you have made all kinds of insinuations and insults.
I only began calling you an idiot when it became apparent that is what you are.
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*thorn21
I'm not playing any victim, I have insinuated and insulted you after your baby tantrum a couple of comments back.
So show me where it "became apparent" that I am an idiot. Go look back and copy and paste the section so I can also see my idiocy.
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*KeswickPinhead
I am not a monkey for you to order around, missy.
If you are interested in what you said, look for yourself.
I have already had enough, and when I dredge through the shit to write my journal piece, I'll have to endure it again.
That's quite enough of your "maturity" for my tastes.
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*thorn21
So you have no proof! Thanks!
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*KeswickPinhead
I have reams of proof that you need to continue learning. That will be part of my dissertation. Ignorant people harass innocent ones, based upon the lies of superstitious liars.
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*thorn21
T____T uh huh
Lots of proof but you can't show it.
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*KeswickPinhead
Lots of proof, but you can't admit it.
